an interview
from whats up! magazine:
by
maria guerriero
"...the
possibility of digital media and electronic media becoming more and
more organic." jake trussell from an on-line interview by chris tweney
It's Friday again.
Long day of work, but I have this when I step off the T: beats vibrating
off of the Lucy Parson's Bookstore sign, spray painted over with words
asking us not to buy into the gentrification of Central Square. In
front is the creator of the music: a DJ. And I thank the DJ today,
and every Friday for bringing some chaotic peace to my mind. . . (taken
from a journal entry, Summer 1998 Toneburst presentations in Central
Square)
This is the Toneburst
Collective. Toneburst is a Boston-based group of DJs, musicians, video
and instillation artists that come together to produce music and events.
Visionaries in contemporary culture. The products from Toneburst combine
art forms of present: new and experimental video, music/sound/speech/noise,
interdisciplinary concoctions. (Toneburst is accepting proposals from
installation, environmental and video artists, hoping to expand to
different media.)
At least one member
of Toneburst is either producing or performing or mixing or presenting
in town; both dj c (aka, jake trussell) and esp (aka, mike esposito)
have played at Circle, the Tuesday night dance event at the Paradise
in Cambridge. Members of Toneburst also produce large scale events
at eclectic spaces throughout New England. Their parties cost $5 and
are always all ages. You can find contact information, upcoming events,
etcetera at their website: www.toneburst.com.
Members of the
Toneburst Collective e-mailed and conversed (almost) with What's Up
from many different physical (rafi is in China), mental and spiritual
places. From their answers, it is clear that they truly think innovative
and introspective. Unlike anything before.
What's Up?
rafi (rafi loiederman):
Played at a club named Babylon. Slick men with forked tongues tried
to look me in the eyes and convince me that the rowdy, pot-smoking
punks I hang with aren't my real friends. They spoke no language I
know, only used words to build shifting towers of deception.
alex (alex rae):
Not much.
jake (jake trussell):
Stuff.
splice (sasha
constanza-chock): That magazine is the bomb. Really.
moose (joe demb):
Sun, Moon, & Stars.
What is Toneburst?
mike (mike esposito):
Choose one or more: Toneburst is a group of people that throw/have
thrown multi-sensory multidisciplinary multimedia extravaganzas in
alternative spaces at relatively infrequent times. Toneburst is the
name of those events. Toneburst is a bunch of guys making electronic
music. Toneburst is a family. Toneburst is something else entirely....
rafi: Toneburst
is homestyle. Toneburst is righteous. Toneburst is d.i.y. Toneburst
is beans and rice. Toneburst is noise toys jams. Toneburst is like
when you were in junior high and everybody was wearing town and country
surf T-shirts, but you wore the turtlenecks your mama bought you just
cause they were more comfortable. Toneburst is tough love.
flack (antony
flackett): Toneburst will typically organize an event around a specific
space, and work with themes that that space inspires. Or perhaps we
will find a space to fit a theme that we want to explore. Often we
will divide the space into different areas with different vibes so
people can experience the event on many levels.
One of Toneburst's
goals is to present to the community an accessible venue for experiencing
innovative experimental art forms. All of the various elements--video,
music, sculpture and the space itself--work together with the diverse
group of Toneburst go-ers (representing all walks of life) to create
one giant piece of time-based art that exists somewhere between a
roadside carnival, a museum field trip, an electronic science fair
and a good ol' fashioned ho-down. (Taken from an e-mail given to Visionspace)
Aren't you worried
that you'll be playing a new years eve show in 1999 and all your computers
will stop running?
jake: My Macintosh's
will keep running if the power grid doesn't shut down.
fig (arnaldo hernandez):
I worry about my computers crashing every show. I've tested all my
machines by using them while their internal clocks change to 1/1/2000
and they are OK. Besides if they stop working I can blame it on "THE
MAN"...
alex: Nope. I'm
worried that millions of people will die sometime around then. A bit
worried.
/rupture (jace
clayton): I'll be in NYC: riots, looting, bad telephone connections,
and the grassroots fomentation of class war!!
splice: I'm HOPING
the computers will all crash because I'll be ready with some good
ol' fashioned large hollow objects to physically hit and bring the
boom sound. And if all else fails the two-lip beat-box never let me
down yet.
moose: Technics
don't have a Y2K bug problem. I don't think.
What new technology
excites you? Scares you?
jake: I am excited
that internet technology, combined with the plummeting prices of digital
video and audio technologies, could allow us all to become our own
media outlets. There will literally be thousands or millions of "channels"
to choose from. Just like any other medium, there will be 90% crap,
but when more artists and free thinkers get a hold of it there will
be lots of great stuff.
I am afraid of
internet technologies ability to become a tool for Big Brother. With
all of the corporate consolidation going on in the internet/telephone/cable
and other industries, there is the potential for a very few people
to be at the top of the media pyramid, and gain control over the whole
thing.
jenn (jenn leong):
A lot of technology excites me and scares me. Lets see... I'm really
into the future of wearable technology. The new medical technology
is going a bit far and is a little creepy, but I'm sure if I needed
it I would be much more appreciative. Actually for a while I thought
that I'd need a new knee. I'm glad to have mine still intact but I
would rather have some synthetic knee than none at all. Anyways, tangible
technology is where it's at, when you can take it off the flat screen,
into your hands and make it your own that's when I'll be psyched.
mike: Computers
can be put to incredibly good use if they are used as the powerful
tools that they are. Blind computer worship can be a very scary thing.
splice: I like
3d scanners, directional speakers, and furbies that talk to each other
and learn new languages, but I'm not sure how much I'll like them
once they're smarter than us. I'm terrified by the idea that the rich
will live longer and longer, amassing more and more wealth while the
rest of us starve due to awful resource waste, fry in the harsh rays
of unblocked ozone and choke in greenhouse gases, or die of genetically
engineered diseases.
fig: Technology
excites me and scares me the same. Do you know those supermarket scanners
that scan your product and speeds things up? That's great, but when
they are not working correctly it takes forever to enter the price
manually.
/rupture: Books
and analog vinyl records excite me. Genotypin'/cloning tech. scares
me.
What's the future
of art and artists?
rafi: The future
of art will be funnier. Plus everyone will pronounce it with a Boston
accent. Nowadays, art takes itself so seriously that it's gonna have
to lighten up to survive. funny aht. Fun-aht. Faht. The future is
faht.
fig: Plastics.
The future is plastics.
alex: Future?
Can't predict the future. The present is interesting. I think one
effect of the spastic proliferation of technology, especially these
insanely complex digital technologies, into so-called artistic media
has been to fuzzify boundaries and raise interesting questions. things
like, who is the artist? Or how much is created by people, as opposed
to machines or situations? If there is an event where there are several
DJs playing records, made by people using samplers who have sampled
other musicians, who are playing in musical structures that they largely
learned from others, playing on instruments that are products both
of their historical evolution and of the available technologies and
materials, then how can anyone place one entity at the root of that
creation? All these different people and forces feeding into it, from
the instrument/tool makers to the organizers of the event who gather
the DJs, to the digital technology industry, to the people who come
to the event as an audience.
I don't think
these questions are really new. Technology has always interacted with
art. There have been artistic/musical traditions, where a less rigid
sampling can happens with your fingers, your eyes, your ears and your
brain instead of with a computer chip. People quote each other. They
react to their social and political situations, to religion, to oppression.
What is new is the extra degree to which everything is blurred; you
can subtract people entirely from the final "performance" of something,
keeping only the watchers and the listeners and the feelers. Do they
become the doers? Maybe. Maybe we need to open our senses more the
rest of the time.
What's your take
on event production?
alex: Maybe event
production is the kind of art form that might help people to look
around them and realize how much we are created by our space, and
how much we create that space.
/rupture: Producers
get a cut, and performers get a cut, so as both, my take is relatively
large, but we never make any money anyhow. Events are micro-cultures:
people create a space and come together to celebrate and share and
grow and think of ways to bring these fleeting event-spaces into greater
society. They're also parties.
jenn: I think
that a lot of the time we view our productions as large scale art
installations that we put up for a night and then turn around and
take it down. I think that's really awesome. Temporary art is very
precious and when so much energy is put into it and so many elements
make up the whole, it is really rewarding for everyone involved.
What are you listening
to these days and what have you been visually or environmentally stimulated
by?
flack: Anything
on vinyl that's strange and under a dollar.
jenn: I've been
really into /rupture's mix tape, PJ Harvey, Lauren Hill. Visually:
superbad.com as always, still motion, that is motion that occurs in
a still image whether its photography or design, ummm, designers republic,
storefronts, flash, tetris and sleepers.
alex: Been listening
to I'm not sure what. Sounds and bangs and thumps and whines and murmurs
as they happen. Some other stuff. Definitely most audiovisually and
environmentally stimulated by huge loud growling behemoth-ish trains
with glowing windows (hints of humanoids) and hulking shadows crunching
who knows what to pieces.
mike: Visual stimulation
is everywhere. The city is amazing if you look at it the right way
(and sort of terrifying no matter what). the big dig, the now-defunct
bridge to Southie (view of the "world shaving headquarters" and the
industrial mess in front of it), certain parts of 93 / the expressway
with multiple intertwined rusty metal on/off ramps like some ridiculous
roller coaster.... Of course the natural wonders of the world are
also nice but they're harder to come by in this particular place and
time.
splice: hip hop
What is the role
of the audience at a Toneburst and what response would you most like
from the crowd?
mike: I started
seriously trying to play "live" electronic music after seeing a group
of electronic/acoustic musicians engaged in a jam session at a soundlab
in 1996. It was mesmerizing and it made me want to stop, sit down,
listen and watch. There were only five or so people paying attention
to about as many musicians. If I could create a similar reaction in
somebody who came to one of our shows then I'd be psyched.
jake: It's great
when the crowd is active: dancing and interacting with other elements
of the event. It is up to us to create an interactive environment
and it is up to the crowd to interact with it.
moose: It seems
to range. If promoted correctly.. artsy fartsy, and interactive.
lack: Enthusiasm,
open-mindedness and bliss.
/rupture: I hope
we all create a space in which all types of difference can peacefully
coexist, without any center or ruling sound/scene/etc. I hope everybody
finds something challenging, that the performers push themselves and
the audience encounters something new, that the overall environment
is strikingly unlike the normal milieu and therefore offers the possibility
for greater, longer lasting anarco-artisticommunities.
Do you have anything
else to add?
jake: What's Up?
rafi: there's
this gnarly chemical plant complex next to where I live. it stretches
for miles. this is china, so there's little concern for hiding the
"ugly" stuff or for keeping people out. you're surrounded by multicolor
pipes, steaming valves, rusting dinosaur machines, and random bursts
of flame, all the time breathing an acrid, dizzying smoke. The best
part is there's a big billboard in the middle of it all. on the billboard
is a picture of the chemical complex in all its glory, proclaiming
the great future it heralds, with a neon yellow sun sinking in the
shit-brown haze--and you're thinking "we're all in it together," and
the theme song to Brazil is humming in your head.
/rupture: 1 +
1 = 3